Im in for the $85........:beer:
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Im in for the $85........:beer:
The issue is that we are talking two different dates at two different costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
Some can make it on one date and others can make it on the other. I don't think it is a cost issue for most. IMHO.
$40 is a case of beer/lap dance or two.
We need to pick a date when most can attend, again IMHO.
Mark
We may be onto something here Dennis...........Let's put it to a poll/vote...or something.
If there are going to be more than 30 attending, the costs would be even lower..........:banana: :banana: :banana: .
Rocks:D
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Originally Posted by Mark #2
Not many have even responded to the date issue. Either date will have folks that can or can't make it. We just need some voices on this issue either way.
The poll could be an answer to either question. It is real simple.... December third at 45 bucks and 3 passes each. December 10th at 85 bucks at the all you can eat buffet.
Rocks
Thats a good point on the date Mark. Didnt actually think about that...but ill be in either way.- GaryQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark #2
MMMmmmm....Buffet.:dQuote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
Ron,Quote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
I agree totally, time for a poll and links to other sites.
Mark
Temple may even help us get some of the Halo guys involved. We should hit the Halo, Arkansas, Loiusiana and Oklahoma sights at the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark #2
Like I said before...if we get enough folks, the costs may even be less than 85. Heck...it could end up costing the same as a day with the GM crowd.
Maybe the question in the poll should be worded to mention the price could vary depending on interest in the track rental option.
Now we just need Dennis to agree to the poll....;) .
Ron wants a pole....Ron wants a pole....Give Ron a pole...
lol....great idea....anyone hear an echo in here ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
--wesQuote:
Originally Posted by wesman
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Originally Posted by wesman
Yeah...well...I said it different...:cool: .
True...yours was more of a :ron: :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
BTW-Did you ever sell those floor mats? I was looking through old posts/PM's and notice I never got with you on those at the track.
--wes
I think $2,500 is too much to pay for a facility that we haven't even checked out yet. I think it is best to make it affordable for most people and just share the track with whoever is there. Reality is we haven't ever had more than 20 racers at a cost of $35/$40 each so that is a pretty good stretch to get to $2,500. I say we go with December 3 and start promoting the date to all of the Lightning owners in the area. :cool:
Also with the drive or trailering it will be a hundred bucks in gas to get there these days.
Is Temple really that much further for you guy's? It seemed Like Hallsville was on the other side of the Earth. I'm all about it, it is a sh!t load closer for me and I know that there are a few L's around Waco that plan to come to this if it is at Temple.
It's a pretty nice track, for those who have never been, Lot's of up close race watching. the shut down area isn't very big and the parking spots would be a premium so we would need to get there early.
So, is Dec.3 the day we are going with? I'll post it on some local Waco boards if so...
No, I'm not sure where they are getting this from. Temple is actually a bit closer than Hallsville is, and the drive is much better, at least there's something besides trees to look at. This is especially true for the Tarrant County folks, Hallsville is about a half hour further than Temple is from us.
--wes
Yeah Temple's no further than Halllsville, and is a pretty quick track. It has a lot of "personality". I've always enjoyed going there. Unless you're trapping well in excess of 125 mph, or you have really bad brakes, then the shutdown area should be more than sufficient.
The parking area is a bit dusty, but no worse than Hallsville. If it's still managed and prepped the way it used to be, then it should be a good time. Plus, they're an IHRA sanctioned track(at least they used to be), so the mid to high 11 second guys shouldn't catch any grief for not having a cage....
NHRA allows mid to high elevens also....are you getting old Rob? Your the one who told me about the new rules this past January.Quote:
Originally Posted by 02BOLT
Rocks:D
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Originally Posted by wesman
I have to throw the flag on ya Wes....for improper use of the :ron: smiley.
A :ron: must include a "back in the day" story....:rll: .
The floor mats......cripes, I haven't thought about them for a long time. I will try to find them...if I didn't give them away or something. Terry acted like such a dick about them, I might have thrown them out in shame;) .
I will let ya know if I find them.
Rocks
So what would you folks think of getting Hallsville opened for a day of racing?
If this could be accomplished, I would rather be at Hallsville than this "street track" in Temple.
It is a serious question..........if Hallsville where to become available....would we be going there?
:confused:
I'm guessing it looked a little scary to you too.;)
Track prep looked really good though on the videos I watched.
I say let's give it a try, I trust Rob's comments.
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Originally Posted by Mark #2
What's happening here Mark, is folks are not coming right out and saying what they think.
So I will start...that track is reminding me of yellow belly. I really have no desire to run down a track that has sh!t for stopping distance. The zig here...and zig there...to wind up on a two lane highway is not giving me warm fuzzies. The idea that parking is at a premium and I could end up parking across the street, just puts icing on the cake.
The question I asked is not hypothetical....
Now...my question this evening concerns going to a better track. I have received a correspondence indicating that we might be able to get Hallsville open for our event. It is not a sure thing yet...but I...like Wes would rather be at a known safe facility if given the choice.
Temple is fine if there is no other option. But at this point...there very well may be an option for Hallsville.
Rocks
I totally agree with your comments, it looks scary to me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
I would much rather race at Hallsville if that is a possibility.
Are you going on Sunday to Redline?
With Hallsville being closed for the months leading up to the Fall Classic. I am worried track conditions and rubber may be totally gone! Another thing is if Temple doesn't start until 2-3pm. The track will start getting slick as the evening cools down.
Right now it doesn't look good for Redline. It is a maybe for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark #2
On this other topic....I believe I will chase up the lead I have on Hallsville.
Rocks
OK...so track prep at either track worries you....;) . Let's see if the Hallsville option is even going to be on the table....like I said in my post to Mark, I will see what comes of the info I have received tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by L8 APEX
Rocks:beer:
Regarding Redline, I'll pulley up to a 3.0 if you pulley down to 3.5, should be close with your lower versus mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
Mark
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Originally Posted by Mark #2
LOL..........My motor might ingest itself with that low of a boost.....:eek:
Ron,Quote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
My calculations show that you should be at 18psi on that combo, and you run the best on a 3.0.
So you won't run me with you having a 1.0" larger lower, you want the same size upper with me a smaller lower?
Sounds like a bad pinks show to me.
Mark
Your calculations are close...but you need to take my ported heads and intake. My 3.25 gives me just under 17...so i am thinking I would be around 15 with the 3.5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark #2
I haven't run this combo on this motor yet...so it is a guess. You have me wanting to experiment now...LOL.
All in fun, I edited my post, but work the Hallsville connection.Quote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
Later.
Mark
OK. So I'll check again on availability of Thunder Valley (Noble, OK).
Looked scary to you too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sixpipes
Ported heads and increased valve overlap and reduced lobe seperation in the cams. This combo flows a LOT more air, a stock motor stacks boost in the intake as it has nowhere to go with the sucky stock heads and conservative cams. My built motor ran 2-3 lbs under a stock motor on the same pulleys due to flow efficiency.Quote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
It's about the same distance...why not? I keep watching that vid and shaking my head at that stopping distance. I will need new brakes after running out there...LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sixpipes
Rocks:bows
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Originally Posted by L8 APEX
That was my point Terry. Are you into redundancy tonight or did you take a "state the obvious" pill. Go back to your Crown....:D .
Just concerned about a scenario where I am in my 15+ second Gen I and Rocks is bearing down on me at the finish with a closing speed in excess of 30 mph more than I'm traveling... Just a safety concern is all. Dark track in close proximity with a faster vehicle coupled with a short run-off area etc... :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark #2
Damn it....I lost my post. Trying to remember what I said....
Rocks, you want to go to a track that has not had any competition in two months, and will not have anyone on it for another 6 weeks (assuming we are there on the 3rd). This is the same track that you lost to me last year because of......(wait for it)....Loss of Traction.
Hallsville sucks, plain and simple. Parking sucks, launch pad sucks, the crew that runs it (or ran it) sucks.
Temple has enough shutdown area, parking, and good traction guaranteed. I agree that whereever we go, the management has to understand that we want a good surface that sticks, and is kept up throughout the day. No bullshit to deal with, or we will want our money back from them. They have insurance to pay for, but so do we and that is a fair request to be made before we race on their track.
The group is looking for a good track to possibly setup a yearly meet for the Texas group of L owners, and this track would bend over backwards to make certain that this event happens there everytime.
10 times out of 10 I would rather go to Temple than Hallsville. I think that if people have questions about the track, lets take a scouting trip down there and check it out. They even have a Big Money race on the 13th of November, along with racing the entire month of November.
off my soapbox for the night....:beer:
No sir, I'm aware that NHRA had revised the 11.99/roll bar rule, but was unsure as to how different tracks may interpret it. I was merely suggesting that, at an IHRA track it should be a non-issue.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 03LightningRocks
I don't mean to sound like a cheerleader for Temple, but I will say that this "room to stop" thing is getting a little blown out of proportion. I have been to this track many times and seen cars and trucks faster than any in this club stop with no drama whatsoever. I realize my Mustang was lighter than our L's, but if you know anything about Fox-bodies, you know that their little 11" brakes SUCK, and I had no problems hauling her down from 118-120mph on front-runners time and time again.
I'd put Temple up against Hallsville any day of the week in terms of safety or quality. It's no Ennis or KCIR, but it's not THAT bad either.
The things Temple has working against it in my mind are (1)the late start time(which makes for a looong day), and (2)the unknowns in reference to number of folks relative to number of available time trials. In terms of parking, it's like any place else......get there early and park up close;.....get there late and you get to walk a bit more between your truck and the track. Once again, it's not THAT bad.
I don't really care where we go, I just wanted to give an account from someone who's raced there many times. If we decide on somewhere else, that's cool. Just thought I'd give my .02:cool:
Also...I hope ya'll decide on the 3rd, wherever it is, because I'd really like to go, but if the 10th works best for the majority then I'll sure understand.:tu:
:confused: This thread has become so garbled that, if anyone can figure it out we need to nominate them for Mensa membership. At anyrate, I am just like a new religious convert, I cann't get enough. I am in for whatever, Dec 3 or Dec 10, short track / longtrack, sticky or slick, Temple - Hallsville - Thunder Valley, $45/$85+tax, title, and fees. As far as a poll - If I haven't got it covered above, then wake me up and I'll vote again.
In other words, I'm in for the whole enchilada.
And I plan on being at Redline this Sunday,:burnout: weather permitting.