Watch it out there on the highways!

[my2002lightning]

You never know when something like this can happen. At least he didn't take anyone else out with him.

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[Silver_2000]

No matter what else may have been going on they will be hard pressed to find any evidence in the burned cab.

I bet it gets blamed on the Diabetes -

Its like blaming the gun

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No matter what else may have been going on they will be hard pressed to find any evidence in the burned cab.

I bet it gets blamed on the Diabetes -

Its like blaming the gun

I bet you are right..

Dana

[03LightningRocks]

I'm not sure I understand why it is wrong to blame the diabetes. Of coarse they may never know for sure that he went into a low blood sugar reaction, but I can see how it could happen. My ex used to do that sh!t all the time. Everything would be good one minute...and the next minute she would be out. Juice or some sugar would bring her around after a few minutes. but if she where driving when that happened, it would have been all over. I used to get after her about using the cruise control when driving alone.

[Silver_2000]

I used to get after her about using the cruise control when driving alone.

Exactly my point - its not the disease its the person.

Just like its not the gun.

An irresponsible senseless idiot can cause all kinds of ruckus with a gun - is that the guns fault ?

Dont lump all gun owners in the same bin and dont lump all diabetics in the same bin.

[L8 APEX]

I think they are just trying to find a reasonable cause. If there was a medical history it may be a valid point. Assuming the driver was unconscious and not tired from lack of sleep. There are a handful of things that could cause a loss of consciousness. A brain aneurysm, stroke etc.. I haven't heard any reports of his medical history.
From reading Doug's post it sounded a little defensive. I don't see this as a malicious act or crime (like a gun crime). I think this was a sad accident and that is how the public sees it? I think they are just trying to find a cause. Everyone wants a CSI sealed and delivered closure to everything these days.

[03LightningRocks]

Exactly my point - its not the disease its the person.

Just like its not the gun.

An irresponsible senseless idiot can cause all kinds of ruckus with a gun - is that the guns fault ?

Dont lump all gun owners in the same bin and dont lump all diabetics in the same bin.


I see what your getting at. I believe I would have to agree with you. After she pulled the coma stunt for the umpteenth time I found instead of getting scared, I would get pissed off at her for being irresponsible and allowing it to happen. It is manageable, as you know all to well.

[Silver_2000]

I think they are just trying to find a reasonable cause. If there was a medical history it may be a valid point. Assuming the driver was unconscious and not tired from lack of sleep. There are a handful of things that could cause a loss of consciousness. A brain aneurysm, stroke etc.. I haven't heard any reports of his medical history.
From reading Doug's post it sounded a little defensive. I don't see this as a malicious act or crime (like a gun crime). I think this was a sad accident and that is how the public sees it? I think they are just trying to find a cause. Everyone wants a CSI sealed and delivered closure to everything these days.

It clearly is defensive - Im trying to keep the state from taking away my ability to drive due to idiots like this. There are already regulations in place to keep diabetics from behind the wheel of big rigs

The initial reports I saw on TV were unsure of his name but were blaming the diabetes. It just bugs me.

Lets also blame the starbucks, and the phone, and the screaming kids that kept you from sleeping, and your boss who told you you HAD To be there by 5 and everything else that kept you from being a safe driver.



By federal regulation, those who take insulin to control their diabetes cannot drive interstate roads. (Some individual states allow waivers for experienced, safe drivers who stay within state boundaries.) The regulation has a simple purpose: No one wants a diabetic driver to lose consciousness at the wheel of an 80,000-pound truck.
In 1993, the Federal Highway Administration asked researchers at Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh to study the risk of allowing insulin-treated diabetics to drive commercial trucks. They estimated an additional 42 crashes would occur each year if the insulin ban were lifted, an added risk they said that falls well within other accepted risks, such as allowing 16-year-olds to drive.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/director_staff/public_information/Backgrounder/drivingwithdiabetesorseizures.pdf

The current rules make drivers who need insulin to control the disease to shy away from it - that way they qualify for the right license - BUT their health and therefore OUR health is at HIGHER risk

Ok rant off

[L8 APEX]

Thanks for the splenation. I didn't think of a diabetic episode being due to his negligence. I forgot how controllable diabetes can be..

[03LightningRocks]

I got rid of that head ache of a woman long ago, so I am not as aware as I once was of the issues Diabetics face. I had no idea there was a movement to take away your right to drive. That would be more big brother BS in my opinion. It would not be surprising to see the group that is trying to take away your driving rights, use this situation as a poster child.

[L8 APEX]

I grew up with a girl that had narcolepsy I think it was. She would smooth fall out every other month or so. Her parents were scared to death to let her drive. I think she got it under better control as an adult. She was hot too!

I don't think they will mess with regular commuter drivers. They let anyone drive a car. Regulating more dangerous modes of transportation is understadable from a public safety standpoint. Pilots, public transportation etc. People that suffer from seizures have similar limitations. Though that may be further off course:rolleyes: Sorry.

[Silver_2000]

I grew up with a girl that had narcolepsy I think it was. She would smooth fall out every other month or so. Her parents were scared to death to let her drive. I think she got it under better control as an adult. She was hot too!

I don't think they will mess with regular commuter drivers. They let anyone drive a car. Regulating more dangerous modes of transportation is understadable from a public safety standpoint. Pilots, public transportation etc. People that suffer from seizures have similar limitations. Though that may be further off course:rolleyes: Sorry.

Next time you go to renew your drivers license - read it carefully

And ask yourself - Why are they asking me if Im diabetic ? Then ask yourself - If I were Doug - How would I answer this question ?

While you are pondering that - Any of you old timers like Mark #2 - If you were behind me while I led a pack of Lightnings to Hallsville 3 or 4 times or to Kansas etc - Would you have driven differently if you thought that I could pass out at any time while we were doing 120 + ?

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Next time you go to renew your drivers license - read it carefully

And ask yourself - Why are they asking me if Im diabetic ? Then ask yourself - If I were Doug - How would I answer this question ?

While you are pondering that - Any of you old timers like Mark #2 - If you were behind me while I led a pack of Lightnings to Hallsville 3 or 4 times or to Kansas etc - Would you have driven differently if you thought that I could pass out at any time while we were doing 120 + ?

I would assume that you answer the question truthfully and knowing you, I have no issues riding with you or behind you.. thats because I know you are on top of your physical status..

Dana

[03LightningRocks]

While you are pondering that - Any of you old timers like Mark #2 - If you were behind me while I led a pack of Lightnings to Hallsville 3 or 4 times or to Kansas etc - Would you have driven differently if you thought that I could pass out at any time while we were doing 120 + ?

Nope...I still would have passed you, wondering why the hell you are driving so slow.:tu:

[L8 APEX]

I never worry about Doug, especially since he lost his weight and got in shape. Now, Rocks... I worry:icon_eek:

[03LightningRocks]

I never worry about Doug, especially since he lost his weight and got in shape. Now, Rocks... I worry:icon_eek:

You better be worried about Rocks breaking a leg off in your ass.:icon_eek:

[L8 APEX]

You better be worried about Rocks breaking a leg off in your ass.:icon_eek:
If you could lift it that high:D. I have made an L Fest journey with you. Slamming a handle of Crown for two nights, racing for two days then driving all the way home snoozing and driving by brail... I have a new appreciation for life after that trip:bows

[03LightningRocks]

Yeah...that was a fun weekend. I woke up Monday morning after that trip and it was as if the whole thing just blasted by.:beer:

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Yeah...that was a fun weekend. I woke up Monday morning after that trip and it was as if the whole thing just blasted by.:beer:


it did.. remember some of us were there with you last year.. :tu::twitch:

[L8 APEX]

Dana was chaperoning the event like an old man:Bullshit

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Dana was chaperoning the event like an old man:Bullshit

Its a tough job but someone has to do it.. knana

[03LightningRocks]

it did.. remember some of us were there with you last year.. :tu::twitch:

OMG, that's right...I forgot about you, but I did remembered Kim was there. She was "In The Zone" with the rest of us cool people.:evil