My observations about racing................

[Sixpipes]

I was able to watch different racing venues today (NASCAR justed started) and have made several observations.......

Although Formula 1 is extremely high-tech and the cars/drivers are probably the best in the world, it is more a soap opera than a race. A race which women will never get to participate in as drivers. This primarily because of the caveman mentality of European males in general. Great soap opera today as Raikonen lost his right front wheel on the last lap. Great theatre, but not great racing.

Indy Car racing is dominated by racing conglomerates (Penske, Andretti, Rahal, Foyt). Women are welcomed especially by those who understand the marketability of a very talented female driver (see also NHRA/Angele Savoie). Racing competition is excellent if you work for one of the big guys; if not, forget it.

NASCAR is dinosaur racing at its best. Bumper to bumper, but it seems like they are racing school buses after watching Formula 1 and Indy Car today. The anouncers never seem to run out of ways to butcher the English language.

My rankings of all three racing venues regarding the following subjects.

IQ of Drivers

1) Formula One
2) Indy Car
3) Snoop Doggy
4) NASCAR

Acceptance of women in the sport

1) Indy Car
2) NASCAR
3) WWF
4) Formula One (Accepted as umbrella carriers only)

Car Performance

1) Formula One
2) Indy Car
3) DART Bus
4) NASCAR

Preferred alcoholic beverage

1) Formula One - Wine/Sparkling Water
2) Indy Car - Mixed drinks/Champagne
3) NASCAR - Beer/Beer

Announcers' knowledge of their sport

1) Formula One
2) Indy Car
3) NASCAR (Anyone that starts the race with boogity, boogity, boogity automatically gets last place.)

A final observation

Most competitive drivers in all three venues are pretty small guys. There are exceptions such as Michael Waltrip and Michael Schumacher, but I think I could take at least 90% of these guys in a UFC-style cage match even at my advanced age. I would certainly be out-quicked, but few would be able to escape my devestating ground and pound attack once I pinned their scrawny little a$$es to the canvas. (I know the UFC comment doesn't have anything to do with racing, but as a Texan, most references to fighting whether in context or not are usually acceptable.)

[Tex Arcana]

BWAHAHAAA!!!


Damn, that was good.. thanks! The only thing I would change is the preferred drinks:

F1: wine/mixed drinks (you have no idea how plastered they get over there--hear about Raikkonen falling into a lake piss-drunk?? )
(others: no change)
NASCAR (or is that CRASHCAR?): piss/beer (because they drink that Amurrikin stuff that's just one step below horse weewee) :khana:

Hey, you mind if swipe this for another forum?? I'll give you credit if you wish.

[dboat]

Sixer,

I agree with you on all accounts. And the women that attend these events in order of intelligence, looks and golddiggerness are as follows:

1) Formula One - was there any doubt? May not always be the best looking but they can golddig with the very best

2) Indy Car

3) CrashCar- usually white trash at its best, which at times can be pretty darned good, but the others have a higher volume of the good stuff

Yes no women drivers in Formula One, but there have been precious few in any of them that you listed, and well Angolie (NHRA) is a motorcycle rider. (still pretty hot though) There was one other pretty good looking blonde female NHRA driver a few years back and she got out when she got pregnant, her brother was a driver too, think she drove Pro Stock but cant remember her name.. She got a fair amount of attention as well.

As far a the women being umbrella holders in F1, wellllll.... what's wrong with that?

Great post Dennis

Dana

[Sixpipes]

Well, I don't mean to be disrespectful to any professional race drivers because I would have absolutely killed to be able to do that for a living. As a matter of fact, I am seeking a patent for a protective piece of equipment that I call the "Go_rilla" device. It provides protection for the driver's gonads, which we all know must be the size of coconuts to do what they do. Can't give you any details right now, but I'm going to make millions.

Also, as an observation, most drivers seem to be in great shape these days and most work out on a regular basis; exception that comes to mind would be Jimmy Spencer. I also want to clear up a misunderstanding for the NASCAR drivers. Staying in shape has positive benefits when racing around oval tracks due to G-force. I would like to clear up the term "G-force" for the NASCAR fans out there. G-force is the force of G-R-A-V-I-T-Y on your body when taking a corner. It does not stand for the force exerted on your G-O-N-A-D-S.

[Tex Arcana]

Well, I don't mean to be disrespectful to any professional race drivers because I would have absolutely killed to be able to do that for a living. As a mater of fact, I am seeking a patent for a protective piece of equipment that I call the "Go_rilla" device. It provides protection for the driver's gonads, which we all know must be the size of coconuts to do what they do. Can't give you any details right now, but I'm going to make millions.

Also, as an observation, most drivers seem to be in great shape these days and most work out on a regular basis; exception that comes to mind would be Jimmy Spencer. I also want to clear up a misunderstanding for the NASCAR drivers. Staying in shape has positive benefits when racing around oval tracks due to G-force. I would like to clear up the term "G-force" for the NASCAR fans out there. G-force is the force of G-R-A-V-I-T-Y on your body when taking a corner. It does not stand for the force exerted on your G-O-N-A-D-S.

F1 drivers have been working out like professional athletes since the late 70's, including doing their jobbing during the heat of the day, so they can be acclimated to the heat.

Remember that little "drive swap" last year between Montoya and Gordon?? They ahd to tape extra padding in Montoya's cockpit, so Jeff could hold his head up while taking the turns. And when they showed Derek Daly's drive of the Jordan, he said that he had to had an extra pad behind his helmet, because he couldn't hold it up against the ACCELERATION of the F1 car!!!

Yeah, I'd say F1 is the one of the most brutal, right behind the Baja SCORE racers.

[Ivanhoe_Farms]

You seem to have left out two very important venues of racing -- to wit:

Sports Car Racing ala LeMans, Sebring, Atlanta, NurnbergRing, Hockenheim, Aberbach

Drag Racing

Care to comment?

[Moonshine]

And the women that attend these events in order of intelligence, looks and golddiggerness are as follows:


3) CrashCar- usually white trash at its best, which at times can be pretty darned good, but the others have a higher volume of the good stuff



Dana

Without disagreeing with your generalization I proudly confess that I lust after Teresa Earnhardt. And, despite her syrupy southern drawl, she's a pretty sharp businesswoman.

[Shiner1]

Not to change the subject.....but this does have to do with racing. ESPN was reporting after the race that "unnamed sources" inside the league might consider a protest against Danika due to the weight advantage she has over the other drivers. She only weights 100lbs!! Do you think there is any truth to that or are they just pissed cause (all of them but 3) got their asses handed to them by a hottie?? I guess you have to get any advantage possible.

[Tex Arcana]

Not to change the subject.....but this does have to do with racing. ESPN was reporting after the race that "unnamed sources" inside the league might consider a protest against Danika due to the weight advantage she has over the other drivers. She only weights 100lbs!! Do you think there is any truth to that or are they just pissed cause (all of them but 3) got their asses handed to them by a hottie?? I guess you have to get any advantage possible.

bwahahah.. now the crying begins... typical, maybe they'll file suit and require a minimum driver weight as well, and force 'em to strap weights to her... either that, or ban wimmins.

[dboat]

Not to change the subject.....but this does have to do with racing. ESPN was reporting after the race that "unnamed sources" inside the league might consider a protest against Danika due to the weight advantage she has over the other drivers. She only weights 100lbs!! Do you think there is any truth to that or are they just pissed cause (all of them but 3) got their asses handed to them by a hottie?? I guess you have to get any advantage possible.

I have heard that there might be a protest or that there might be a move for some rule changes. Although most of those guys are pretty little and dont weigh over 150 lbs. But a 50 lb advantage is pretty big.
I dont hear anything of the sort coming out of F1 with the couple of larger drivers in the Schumacher brothers. I think its crap personally. What are you going to do? weigh each driver just before the race and make them add ballast to bring the lightest driver up to the same weight as the others? Its just a bunch of to me.
Dana

[TP Derrick D]

Sixer,

I agree with you on all accounts. And the women that attend these events in order of intelligence, looks and golddiggerness are as follows:

1) Formula One - was there any doubt? May not always be the best looking but they can golddig with the very best

2) Indy Car

3) CrashCar- usually white trash at its best, which at times can be pretty darned good, but the others have a higher volume of the good stuff

Yes no women drivers in Formula One, but there have been precious few in any of them that you listed, and well Angolie (NHRA) is a motorcycle rider. (still pretty hot though) There was one other pretty good looking blonde female NHRA driver a few years back and she got out when she got pregnant, her brother was a driver too, think she drove Pro Stock but cant remember her name.. She got a fair amount of attention as well.

As far a the women being umbrella holders in F1, wellllll.... what's wrong with that?

Great post Dennis

Dana

I don't know if you are thinking of Rhonda Hartman-Smith or not,but she drove top fuel dragsters and she was married to a TF dragster race
There is a female motorcycle racer ahead of Angelle in the points right now,I know her name just can't think of it right now. Angelle has a new last name for the 2nd time in less thaan 4 years. The 4 female drivers in Indy has been Janet Guthurie,Lynn St.James, Sara Fisher,Danicia Patrick.
Yeah ,I follow NASCAR for 30 years now, I grew up in Alabama where NASCAR was cool before it became cool, Talladega 500 & Daytona 500 with the Alabama gang Donnie & Bobby Allison ,NHRA for 18 years and INDY for 25 years or so just in the past 10 on a regular basis,but I use to watch Gordon Johncock,AJ Foyt ,The Unsers, Mario, Johnny Rutherford, well you guys get the picture. NO F1 FOR ME !!!

[Mark #2]

I don't know if you are thinking of Rhonda Hartman-Smith or not,but she drove top fuel dragsters and she was married to a TF dragster race
There is a female motorcycle racer ahead of Angelle in the points right now,I know her name just can't think of it right now. Angelle has a new last name for the 2nd time in less thaan 4 years. The 4 female drivers in Indy has been Janet Guthurie,Lynn St.James, Sara Fisher,Danicia Patrick.
Yeah ,I follow NASCAR for 30 years now, I grew up in Alabama where NASCAR was cool before it became cool, Talladega 500 & Daytona 500 with the Alabama gang Donnie & Bobby Allison ,NHRA for 18 years and INDY for 25 years or so just in the past 10 on a regular basis,but I use to watch Gordon Johncock,AJ Foyt ,The Unsers, Mario, Johnny Rutherford, well you guys get the picture. NO F1 FOR ME !!!

Yeah what ever happened to Sara Fisher, I liked her.
Mark

[Mark #2]

I was able to watch different racing venues today (NASCAR justed started) and have made several observations.......

Although Formula 1 is extremely high-tech and the cars/drivers are probably the best in the world, it is more a soap opera than a race. A race which women will never get to participate in as drivers. This primarily because of the caveman mentality of European males in general. Great soap opera today as Raikonen lost his right front wheel on the last lap. Great theatre, but not great racing.

Indy Car racing is dominated by racing conglomerates (Penske, Andretti, Rahal, Foyt). Women are welcomed especially by those who understand the marketability of a very talented female driver (see also NHRA/Angele Savoie). Racing competition is excellent if you work for one of the big guys; if not, forget it.

NASCAR is dinosaur racing at its best. Bumper to bumper, but it seems like they are racing school buses after watching Formula 1 and Indy Car today. The anouncers never seem to run out of ways to butcher the English language.

My rankings of all three racing venues regarding the following subjects.

IQ of Drivers

1) Formula One
2) Indy Car
3) Snoop Doggy
4) NASCAR

Acceptance of women in the sport

1) Indy Car
2) NASCAR
3) WWF
4) Formula One (Accepted as umbrella carriers only)

Car Performance

1) Formula One
2) Indy Car
3) DART Bus
4) NASCAR

Preferred alcoholic beverage

1) Formula One - Wine/Sparkling Water
2) Indy Car - Mixed drinks/Champagne
3) NASCAR - Beer/Beer

Announcers' knowledge of their sport

1) Formula One
2) Indy Car
3) NASCAR (Anyone that starts the race with boogity, boogity, boogity automatically gets last place.)

A final observation

Most competitive drivers in all three venues are pretty small guys. There are exceptions such as Michael Waltrip and Michael Schumacher, but I think I could take at least 90% of these guys in a UFC-style cage match even at my advanced age. I would certainly be out-quicked, but few would be able to escape my devestating ground and pound attack once I pinned their scrawny little a$$es to the canvas. (I know the UFC comment doesn't have anything to do with racing, but as a Texan, most references to fighting whether in context or not are usually acceptable.)

Nice post, I'll agree with most of it but:

I'll go out on a limb here:
Ryan Newman has an engineering degree from Purdue, I do not think Snoop or any of the F1 or Indy drivers have college degrees, but the F1 guys are bi.........lingual that is, so that requires some IQ.

F1 is very accepting of women, you have to go to a race in France, very accepting

I don't know of any Dart buses that go 200 MPH.

What's wrong with Beer?

F1 announcers are very good.

Dale JR just wrecked Micheal so he should beat his little ass.

[Mark #2]

Okay, now it is an official CrashCar record. 21 cautions, and I'll bet it's not over yet. Oh but I'm sorry for wrecking you, I wish everyone was less PC in CrashCar like the old days. Time for fighting again.

Well I was right. Now at 22, I think 23 now with the red flag and not a mark on Bobbie Labonte's car

[Tex Arcana]

Okay, now it is an official CrashCar record. 21 cautions, and I'll bet it's not over yet. Oh but I'm sorry for wrecking you, I wish everyone was less PC in CrashCar like the old days. Time for fighting again.

Well I was right. Now at 22, I think 23 now with the red flag and not a mark on Bobbie Labonte's car

Hey, in the F1 race today, they *almost* set a record, in having a complete race without *one* mechanical failure, 'til Raikkonen went and blew up his suspension...